Summoning Aeon too powerful???

Summoning Aeon too powerful???

Picaboo 09 Mar 2014 15:48

Just found this little gem of a game and tried it for a couple of mock battles with friends. I reallllly enjoyed the free form character creaton (especially the tech creation system). However, we all found that the summoning rules were FAR too powerful.

for example: a LVL 1 swordmaster pays 12 MP and gets to do a Power attack with Area and +25% boosted damage…nice.
The summoner pays 12 MP and gets to summon shiva which will provide him with a meat HP shield, 3x his stats and 60 TP of abilities with her own MP Pool. That is just OVERKILL. Shiva casts Diamond Dust with Attack Magic, Area and Boost (just like the sowrdmaster). In the following round, Shiva cost only 4 MP and can cast Diamond Dust again for only 4 MP (at 3x Stats) while the swordmaster gets to spend a whole new 12 MP to get same effect.

I don't know if weère missing something here.

My suggestion:
1) Make the summoner pay MP+2 cost every round (for the HP and MP shield the summon grants)
2) Make her base stats 1x stat + modifier with usual cap (to prevent being it overpowered)
3) Each summon receive a number of Tech levels equal to the TEch level of the summon to be divided (to prevent a Tech level 1 summon costing 8 TP to grant 60 TP of abilities)

Re: Summoning Aeon too powerful???

Dark_Star2222 03 Apr 2014 06:52

So, dunno if you're still visiting the site or not, but I just took a look at the Esperian Grimoire, and Aeons have a cap on their base stats. A rank 1 summon, for example, has a cap of 40 to their base stats. Secondly, the summoner isn't able to do anything besides healing their aeon with items, command it, or dismiss it. Furthermore, if an Aeon is defeated for whatever reason, it can't be summoned again until the summoner has had an extended rest (IE, sleeping at the inn, using a tent/cottage, etc.).

Also, keep in mind that as the Game Master, you get to add additional restrictions based on what you think makes sense. You can also, of course, rule that summons are gained at plot points, not through the normal Tech Creation process. Sorta like how they're handled in FFX. You could even have gaining the Aeon require a battle, like how it's usually handled for the more powerful summons in most of the FF games.

Basically, the rules as presented are perfectly fine as-is, and there's nothing stopping the GM from imposing further restrictions as they please, like any of the ones you suggested. Just, y'know, keep in mind that you don't want them to be TOO restrictive, otherwise your players will never actually want to use Summoning. ;p

Re: Summoning Aeon too powerful???

ThunderGodCidofolas 28 Jan 2015 05:40

Two points, if anyone's still reading this thread:

A) Aeon summoning is probably an optional rule for a reason.

B) Rules as written, you can fake it just as easily by using Morph's Multi-Form version, with stricter limitations (Constant MP drain, Can't repeatedly double or more your HP at will).